Lower the Ladder

By Amy Mason | August 12, 2020

Pastor Marty Grubbs

What does a CEO have in common with a Senior Pastor? With wisdom gained from decades of leadership, Pastor Marty Grubbs has an illuminating conversation with Thomas Hill about transparency, mission vs. strategy, and how to promote mental and emotional safety. “Lower the ladder,” Marty says, “so more people can make that first step.”

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